Cupplates.Org

Dedicated to Collectors of Early American Glass Cup Plates

November 2005 eNewsletter

Cold weather is on its way and with it usually comes more time to read and work on our collections. This winter we will be copying the old Cup Plate articles from "The American Antiques Collector" Magazines. Any other interesting articles from other publications are always welcomed. Thank you in advance for your help, Dave McDonnell

Thank you Green Valley Auctions
Green Valley has given Cupplates.org permission to reproduce cup plate photos from their auctions. It is our hope to use these photos in future publications and on pages in the website. Green Valley Auctions is a wonderful site to visit for future cup plate auctions.

Photo is from the Bilane Sale:
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New Questions and Answers from the Forum
We hope that you will get in the habit of checking our Forum weekly. Cup Plate Collectors will ask their questions and we need your help to answer questions. Your opinion and suggestion is very valued, so please put your two cents in and help us all. Please Click on the Forum button to see current questions and answers.

Bill Pearson discussing Cup Plates
Is this a cup plate? It has a very fine flint or leaded glass ring. 3 5/8" diameter and 5/8". The table rest appears ground. I cannot see any mold mark around the rim but it may have been fire polished. The shoulder pattern reminds me of a topographic map with a daisy center. This is a very high quality plate and I am guessing it is a later plate with some other use but would appreciate comments. Left photo shows front and right photo shows back. Please send comments to cupplates@aol.com

What is a concave shoulder?
( Corrected from the origianl newsletter emailed on 11/01/05 ) AGCP occasionally mentions this but since all the photos are from directly overhead the reader cannot look at a photo to see this detail. Is the shoulder concave when viewed from above or below? Attached are two similar Victoria plates. The first one is the less common concave shoulder and the the second is the standard convex shoulder.

Here is a set of photos showing a nice variant that is truly different, not just a weak imprint. It is a 334A ( left ) beside a 334AX1( right ) which Bilane describes in CPD ( Cup Plate Discoveries ) as "similar to 334A but petal tips are further apart."

Note: Bill Pearson and Charlie Tucker will be putting together a list of all known Variants and we hope to show the examples at Cupplates.Org so that all collectors will be able to see the difference between the original plates and the variants.

Photographing Cup Plates: There is a wonderful article written and illustrated by collector Arch Doty on the first page of our website. Arch graciously made his notes available for all of us to enjoy.

Upcoming Auctions: Nobody has reported any off Internet auctions of cup plates for November or December. If you know of upcoming auctions or good Glass Cup Plate Sales, please share the information with your fellow collectors.

Best Regards,
from Cupplates.Org